Just a reminder that Frank Lima is a retired fire captain and speaks on behalf of the IAFF union who is heavily funded by Nationwide/car insurance; they strongly urge you to vote No on HLA just so they can maintain their selfish profits. Current government employees, including current firefighters, are prohibited from engaging in political activity per hatch act. Also, side note, this dude sued the LAFD for 3.75 million in 2007 due to stress Vote absolutely YES on HLA
@kippy101 Not no one. I do it everyday and I've gained quite a lot of muscles from it! No car payment, no gas, no maintenance, no insurance... I save 10s of thousands of dollars a year! Probably what the citizens of the US need, too, since we have the highest obesity rate of almost all countries in the world. We are definitely falling behind in a lot of ways in comparison to those in Europe, especially places like the Netherlands who have the best public transit and infrastructure.
@@MultiSkippy101 no one said “don’t drive. Bike everywhere”. Use the mode of transportation that works best. Short trip to the train station or grocery? Bike. Road trip? Drive. Simple.
@@MultiSkippy101 If we had safe and robust bike infrastructure, 10 miles each day is easily doable, especially on an electric bike. 3 miles on a bike is easy.
It’s a shame the firefighters are standing against this measure. I would think bus only lanes would help emergency vehicles skip traffic as well? The protected bike lanes on Venice Blvd have been a huge improvement it was a death wish riding a bike on that 8 lane monstrosity before
HAH! You must never drive down Sepulveda blvd in the valley. They have a bus only lane and when theres traffic people just use it as another lane. Cops dont care cause what are they going to do, ticket 50 vehicles everyday?
Great idea! What LA needs to speed things up is much more cars on the road! That'll do it! As we all know, LA never has traffic jams now! Not at all! I get anywhere I want to go in my car in 12 minutes! What a town!
@@Droogs nobody wants to ride a bike when they think they're gonna get murked by a car. Hence the desire for bike lånes. Which, incidentally, make things safer for pedestrian and especially disabled people. A lot of bike safe infrastructure leaves a lot of room for including this people so that they're not disadvantaged by cars. It's just a fact that bikes take up less space and less energy than cars, so if you can make bikes a viable option for people, you're also going to have less traffic, and therefore also less accidents. Increasing space for cars only somehow seems to increase the traffic, paradoxically. The only effective method to reduce traffic AND increase safety is to make roads that make people WANT to use alternative methods. Nobody wants to take a bus when they just get stuck behind cars. No one wants to take their bike if they're always getting screamed at by motorists, or they have to navigate random changes from protected lanes to sharrows. Everyone has to drive their kids to wherever they want to go because kids don't have access to a transportation method that promotes independence. Nobody can let their kids do it. Because it's not safe in it's current iteration. If we make bike lanes big enough for fire trucks, there's no reason to cite this issue. And roads that are too small for a large bike lane should not be for through traffic anyways, and should only be for neighborhood and emergency traffic. If it HAS to be a throughway, then a redesign that accommodates both emergency vehicles and pedestrians would be in order. For example, there's no reason some streets cannot become one way streets if it increases safety. We deserve safe roads for the next generation and the oldest generation.
The automotive lobby is paying these firefighters to scare you. Like bike lanes and bus lanes make more traffic than the existing congested car lanes we have. The whole purpose of bike and buses is to get people out of their cars for less traffic.
While I don't disagree with this firefighter when it comes to the logistics of response time. His whole rant about the "right way to bicycle" really made me dislike him. If there are bicycle lanes for cyclists isn't that the correct way to cycle. If there are no lanes are we safer then in the roads? This guy is a complete idiot, guess it really isn't that hard to point a firehose at the hot red burning object. Guy knew the only job he'd be good at.
The way the dude said "bike lane", you know they have disdain for anyone not in a car. This dude isn't well spoken, obviously nervous, and seemingly full of one-sided talking points that have plenty of counter-arguments.
@@Droogs Yes we are. Speak for yourself don't' speak for me. I ride all the time but I'm limited where I can go because most roads are too dangerous. LA is the perfect city in the world for bike lanes. This should have been done long ago. With safe bike lanes away from major roads, less people drive, which means less traffic jams. All car drivers should love this.
@@Droogs "Angelenos aren't riding bikes" Do you go outside? "L.A. is an automobile city." No. It was built on the tram. "We should be focusing on ways to make using an automobile more efficient." Cars cannot be "efficient". They are to spacious and heavy.
@@Droogs "Stand on a corner of any major street intersection in L.A. (say, Wilshire & Westwood) " These places don't have any adequate bike infastructure. THey are large stroads that emphasize cars. This is a ridiculous argument. No one wants to bike next to a highway. "The car drivers will outnumber the bikers by at least 1,000 to 1." So? Cars are terrible vehicles. " Transportation in L.A. is clearly centered around the automobile. " Again, it used to be centered around the tram. LA used to have the greatest public transportation in the world. "And you want to spend hundreds of millions of dollars (which we don't have)" LAPD gets billions. Literally as much as the NORTH KOREAN MILITARY. " to accomnodate .01% of the population." Do you not realize that the only reason people use cars is because every other option is impractical. HLA would force LA to make biking and buses viable. How is this complicated for you?
@@Droogswhen the close streets for biking people ride a ton. no one rides because it's not safe. they ride bikes more in seattle which has more hills and colder weather
San Francisco's Firefighters did the same thing. lol So Sad. Easiest solution for Emergency staff is to create double track Protected bike lane to let emergency staff through. Like, even without bike lanes there's still a ton of traffic. @_@
I feel like they get paid for no compassion doing absolutely nothing for the public community even though they claim to do I never seen them do much ever nothing
@@MikeGoesBadaBoom so all of those people they showed riding on bikes, it would be better if each of them had to drive a car? Sounds like more traffic, not less...
We definitely need to get rid of as much street parking as possible. It is the worst use of public space. Getting rid of it is the best way to reduce traffic.
People are so brainwashed they actually believe this will speed up traffic we already HAVE IT so bad in traffic taking one car lane off for some schmucks who like to drive there bikes on Sundays is MAJOR NO TO ME
I used to live in Germany. Bike lanes over there are ELEVATED, so beyond the curb and level with the pedestrian walk; in many cases pedestrian walk is elevated an inch from the bike lane as well. I believe that is much safer than bike lanes on the same level with vehicular traffic. Of course the German model is much more expensive. The City of LA seems to have a good budget. So it is only a matter of choosing priorities.
Good lord. Does this guy know that fire trucks can drive in the bus lane? That’s how it works in Boston. Boston has yet to burn down or suffer economic collapse last time I checked.
It’s true 7th street is a nightmare. I seen how fire trucks struggle to get were they going. Also we need a better lighting on the streets. Half of the city is pitch black. Westmoreland ave. Vehicles have to wait for someone to make a left or right turn until pedestrians pass. It holds the traffic. I already vote no NLA.
@@handsfortoothpicksyou clearly haven’t. Road diets when there’s no viable alternatives is a stupid concept. We don’t have enough public transit to replace car use. Our public transit is filled with homeless scum.
They put these bike lanes this on Reseda Blvd. It’s been really bad on traffic - nearly doubling our time to go down a 2 mile stretch. Reseda Blvd is so jammed up now that we end up taking Wilbur which doesn’t have bike lanes. While the bike lanes have good intentions, it’s still too dangerous to ride bikes, and we avoid the bus because of crime, slow schedules, and overcrowding.
Half of the Comment Section acting like it’s the End of the world. Saying “Traffic will get worse if a lane is removed” but then forget about induced Demand Or “We Aren’t the Netherlands” But then forget that the Fact that the Netherlands that the Same infrastructure that LA had decades ago.
We have similar issues in NYC even though the bike lanes are designed to be used by emergency vehicles. Turns out most of the cops and firefighters live in the suburbs and are more worried about traffic, which they cause by driving into the most transit-rich city in the US.
The biggest fraction of responses for firefighters is dangerous car crashes. These types of road upgrades reduce deadly crashes. That's good for fire fighters. Kids need a safe place to bike. He's right there is data. The other bit of data is that the impacts on business is neutral to better, not worse. Finally, the size of fire trucks. They keep getting bigger and bigger. In every other developed country, the trucks are just as efficient, and not as oversized as the US. Roads designed for these huge trucks are what make roads dangerous
@@raffyzoo2130 Not on a very narrow street. Where are they going to move over when there is only one lane of traffic each direction and no parking side available. Where are they going to move, on to the sidewalk ? And put pedestrians at risk. Thats not a plan at all! Would you like to be the front or rear driver on a hook and ladder truck and try that maneuver yourself?
I don’t know why anybody would even come up with this lame idea again it makes traffic 10 times worse than it already is can’t move an inch around the corner anywhere in the freaking valley
"I'm not entirely certain about the solution, but the typical width of a bicycle ranges from 1 foot 5 inches to 2 feet 5 inches, varying based on the type of bicycle. If you consider a sidewalk that is five feet wide, you could divide it into two sections: one for pedestrian traffic and the other for one-directional bicycle traffic."
@@New-bw4kz Like when that firefighter said building more bicycle infrastructure would make it more dangerous for bicyclists. What these "No" people are failing to mention is that Measure HLA doesn't add any new lanes of any kind. All it does is require the city to follow the laws on the books, which they have failed to do.
@@MikeGoesBadaBoom It makes no sense to force them on the sidewalks, people are pulling out of alleys/driveways and don't even look both directions, or stop before entering the sidewalk to make sure it's clear.
my local road way i use to travel on was 4 lanes with parking in both sides, and they managed to reduce it to a dual lane parking lot during rush hour.
LA is trying to mirror Europe in this regard. HOWEVER, according to my understanding, in Europe emergency service protocols are different, in that emergency vehicles are equipped to provide emergency services on location, vs. the US protocol is that emergency vehicles are getting the injured to the hospital ASAP.
Yeah, that’s a problem on Sepulveda Boulevard one of mini Boulevard now I have to worry about or we have to worry about people using that lane as a regular lane to speed down the street to pass everyone and before I make an entrance into any business on the right of me, I’d rather look for a bus bicycle or some idiot speeding down that lane so no it doesn’t work and it causes unnecessary traffic There’s always talk about alleviating traffic and this just makes it worse. Horrible
The point is getting to a critical mass of safe and efficient bike and pedestrian infrastructure, nobody is going to bike if there's only a protected lane on one street during their trip/commute. Once the network is more robust it'll be a viable option for many people.
Adding. These Bike lanes on already densely populated and heavily trafficked streets and roads makes little sense forcing more cars on to fewer lanes not to mention making the parking problem even worse. Another example of public officials having to much tax payer time on their hands.
I'm SICK of the bike lanes. This isn't a flat tiny piece of crap European city. It's LA and the city is full of hills and the connections are awful for any trip longer than 5 miles. Secondly, if the city can't maintain the roads for the cars that produce so much more tax revenue do you really think they'll maintain them any better for your stupid bikes that aren't being taxed like cars?
Will if the Firefighters where smart they'll be a lane open for them switch is the bus lane an have tha lane be for buses and law enforcement they will never be stuck in traffic the goal is to have less cars on the streets not more 💯🤷♂️🤔 #VOTEYESONHLA
Bike lanes are stupid and waste of Tax payer money. To make Bike lanes they going to have to change roads and Side walks to add them and even in some cases lose the side walk in some areas. Since those areas are maxed out as it is. Louisville did the same thing and their Mayor got named Bike Mayor. Esp since in winter time and most of the time. Those Bike lanes are not used at all. No one bikes to work in the winter not when there is ice all over the roads. Also is the city going to use that money to fix the roads. People saying roads have pot holes bigger then a small car in some places. But hey lets build bike lanes and leave the roads a mess.
@@JermaniBurroughs Pedestrians are already safe with Side walks, Bikes were also safe as long as they followed the rules of the road. Keep right except when you trying to make a left turn. It called share the road. But some Bike people get right in the middle of the lane and will have 20 cars that can't go around them. Think to drive a bike on the road, you should be required a License for a bike, saying you know the rules of the road for a bike. Some Pedestrians are worse then bikers. They wear all black at night and expect drivers see them walking in the middle of the road. They usually do as they hit them and say, Where was they at?
@@fnusecurity5112 That’s why cars have lights & There building Protected bike lanes so bikes can be safe & The reason why that Bike might get into a car lane is because a bike lane would end & there’s possibly no sidewalks
@@JermaniBurroughs Wrong, there is no City in Norway or the Netherlands that is the same size as LA, and in both Norway and the Netherlands there are not the same number of cars that circulate through the city every day like it is in LA
@@juniorpaulo3494 The Netherlands is the same size of La County & The Netherlands has Bike Lanes all over the Country Add that with a robust Rail System That Circulates the Country & 50 years ago The Netherlands was just as Car-Minded like LA but They Improve We didn’t (for now)& let’s also not forget that the fact the Netherlands is Less Denser than LA & The Netherlands is almost twice the Population as LA.
LA has tried to do this before, only to remove those bike lanes not long after. It was very costly. Until more people actually ride their bike and take the bus, this isn't really worth it.
Most people will only ride in the bike lanes if they are reasonably safe, which the current minimal ones aren't, as they often put people in the door zone of parked cars and with fast moving traffic directly beside them. there needs to be true protection, but that takes more space. And the bus will only broadly be an attractive option if it's not stuck in traffic, hence the need for bus lanes. Transit needs to be efficient for it to be a viable option for people. Sooner or later LA is going to need to make these changes anyway if there is to be any hope of safer streets and better mobility options. The status quo is not acceptable. Oh and also there is this climate crisis thing.
It's not very fiscally responsible to keep spending money on expensive roads when there are other cheaper, more efficient methods of transit available, rather than everyone needing a car to do anything in the city.
Doesn't anyone look past their nose in California? Why do you think state government pushed for 'light rail' commuter trains, a high-speed 'bullet train' connecting Los Angeles and San Francisco (with other destinations planned), the highest (at pump) price for gasoline in the Nation, the most strictly enforced vehicle laws, the wide-spread availability of public use scooters & bikes, implementation of ever more pedestrian only streets and shopping areas, and now for additional protected bike lane installation? The plan is for the eventual elimination of ALL privately owned vehicle use on public roads within the State of California which would eliminate things like 'high-speed' car chases, hit 'n run drivers, vehicle accidents, drive-by shootings, illegal 'side-show' displays, car-jackings, chop-shops, [future] driver-less cars, and several other non-desirable things that your state government would like to see eliminated.
Make bike lanes wide enough so that fire trucks and ambulances can use them in emergencies. That is how it works in the rest of the world.
That is how it works in NYC.
@@rb810810not really - most bike lanes here in NY are just painted.
I really like this idea. I hate how entitled drivers park in the bike lane though. It kind of kills the benefit.
that doesnt even make sense. fire trucks can use bus lanes.
Till they get stuck behind a bus that can't move out of the way because of the barricades, that will also trap the fire engines.
It doesn't always head in the same direction. Go on a ridealong, youll see it won't work at all.
@@troy.petersDo you think that firetrucks won't get trapped behind miles and miles of traffic and cars? Use your brain here
Bike lanes are stupid. Get em out
@@MikeGoesBadaBoomExplain it. Bikes are a very capable vehicle
Sounds like someone’s getting paid on the side
All the time money over everything
Just a reminder that Frank Lima is a retired fire captain and speaks on behalf of the IAFF union who is heavily funded by Nationwide/car insurance; they strongly urge you to vote No on HLA just so they can maintain their selfish profits. Current government employees, including current firefighters, are prohibited from engaging in political activity per hatch act.
Also, side note, this dude sued the LAFD for 3.75 million in 2007 due to stress
Vote absolutely YES on HLA
Vote no on HLA
Most fire trucks respond to traffic violence. If there are less cars there’s less traffic violence and collisions and we’ll be all safer.
Where are the less cars coming in to your thinking. No one is going to ride a bike to commute 3-10 miles each day
@kippy101 Not no one. I do it everyday and I've gained quite a lot of muscles from it! No car payment, no gas, no maintenance, no insurance... I save 10s of thousands of dollars a year! Probably what the citizens of the US need, too, since we have the highest obesity rate of almost all countries in the world. We are definitely falling behind in a lot of ways in comparison to those in Europe, especially places like the Netherlands who have the best public transit and infrastructure.
@@MultiSkippy101 no one said “don’t drive. Bike everywhere”. Use the mode of transportation that works best. Short trip to the train station or grocery? Bike. Road trip? Drive. Simple.
@@MultiSkippy101 I don't think he has a commute or kids.
@@MultiSkippy101 If we had safe and robust bike infrastructure, 10 miles each day is easily doable, especially on an electric bike. 3 miles on a bike is easy.
It’s a shame the firefighters are standing against this measure. I would think bus only lanes would help emergency vehicles skip traffic as well?
The protected bike lanes on Venice Blvd have been a huge improvement it was a death wish riding a bike on that 8 lane monstrosity before
HAH! You must never drive down Sepulveda blvd in the valley. They have a bus only lane and when theres traffic people just use it as another lane. Cops dont care cause what are they going to do, ticket 50 vehicles everyday?
@@Jbharley91we can put up concrete barriers to fully separate it.
@@Jbharley91 they could literally do that yeah
If they can navigate through streets where there are cars parked on the streets then I'm sure those bike lanes won't be a problem for them.
and where are those park car will park?
@@comprayreventadestorageuni8618 In the white lines marked for parking. Do you not know much about modern bike lane design?
Bus lanes can be used by Police, Firefighters, and EMS leading to faster response times.
Exactly
Did u see a bus lane in that diagram
@@davidhays2846 but do you see a bus lane in the diagram? Not every road will have a bus lane for emergency vehicles to pass.
Till they get stuck behind a bus that can't move out of the way because of the barricades, that will also trap the fire engines.
@@troy.peters Bus Lanes don’t have barriers. And it’s still more efficient than gridlocked traffic like it is now
Great idea! What LA needs to speed things up is much more cars on the road! That'll do it! As we all know, LA never has traffic jams now! Not at all! I get anywhere I want to go in my car in 12 minutes! What a town!
@@Droogs Why? When there are traffic jams at all and highways are usually only lightly traveled? Maybe call the FD for a ride?
@@Droogs nobody wants to ride a bike when they think they're gonna get murked by a car. Hence the desire for bike lånes. Which, incidentally, make things safer for pedestrian and especially disabled people. A lot of bike safe infrastructure leaves a lot of room for including this people so that they're not disadvantaged by cars. It's just a fact that bikes take up less space and less energy than cars, so if you can make bikes a viable option for people, you're also going to have less traffic, and therefore also less accidents. Increasing space for cars only somehow seems to increase the traffic, paradoxically. The only effective method to reduce traffic AND increase safety is to make roads that make people WANT to use alternative methods. Nobody wants to take a bus when they just get stuck behind cars. No one wants to take their bike if they're always getting screamed at by motorists, or they have to navigate random changes from protected lanes to sharrows. Everyone has to drive their kids to wherever they want to go because kids don't have access to a transportation method that promotes independence. Nobody can let their kids do it. Because it's not safe in it's current iteration. If we make bike lanes big enough for fire trucks, there's no reason to cite this issue. And roads that are too small for a large bike lane should not be for through traffic anyways, and should only be for neighborhood and emergency traffic. If it HAS to be a throughway, then a redesign that accommodates both emergency vehicles and pedestrians would be in order. For example, there's no reason some streets cannot become one way streets if it increases safety. We deserve safe roads for the next generation and the oldest generation.
Nope they need to redo roads
One more lane bro, it's gonna fix traffic.
Boy, nothing biased about this Captains opinions 🙄
Why is skeletor against bike lanes
The roads are much more beautiful looking and safer with the road diets and bike lanes and the fresh paving and paint.
The automotive lobby is paying these firefighters to scare you. Like bike lanes and bus lanes make more traffic than the existing congested car lanes we have. The whole purpose of bike and buses is to get people out of their cars for less traffic.
While I don't disagree with this firefighter when it comes to the logistics of response time. His whole rant about the "right way to bicycle" really made me dislike him. If there are bicycle lanes for cyclists isn't that the correct way to cycle. If there are no lanes are we safer then in the roads? This guy is a complete idiot, guess it really isn't that hard to point a firehose at the hot red burning object. Guy knew the only job he'd be good at.
His argument was a classic straw man, full of misinformation and an appeal to emotion.
The way the dude said "bike lane", you know they have disdain for anyone not in a car. This dude isn't well spoken, obviously nervous, and seemingly full of one-sided talking points that have plenty of counter-arguments.
I’m always on my bike and I want safer roads to ride my bike. No on HLA means rich people win that battle. Less cars more bikes. So, I say YES on HLA.
@@Droogs Yes we are. Speak for yourself don't' speak for me. I ride all the time but I'm limited where I can go because most roads are too dangerous. LA is the perfect city in the world for bike lanes. This should have been done long ago. With safe bike lanes away from major roads, less people drive, which means less traffic jams. All car drivers should love this.
Rich? You underestimate the number of working class Angelenos who drive cars.
@@Droogs "Angelenos aren't riding bikes"
Do you go outside?
"L.A. is an automobile city."
No. It was built on the tram.
"We should be focusing on ways to make using an automobile more efficient."
Cars cannot be "efficient". They are to spacious and heavy.
@@Droogs "Stand on a corner of any major street intersection in L.A. (say, Wilshire & Westwood) "
These places don't have any adequate bike infastructure. THey are large stroads that emphasize cars. This is a ridiculous argument. No one wants to bike next to a highway.
"The car drivers will outnumber the bikers by at least 1,000 to 1."
So? Cars are terrible vehicles.
" Transportation in L.A. is clearly centered around the automobile. "
Again, it used to be centered around the tram. LA used to have the greatest public transportation in the world.
"And you want to spend hundreds of millions of dollars (which we don't have)"
LAPD gets billions. Literally as much as the NORTH KOREAN MILITARY.
" to accomnodate .01% of the population."
Do you not realize that the only reason people use cars is because every other option is impractical. HLA would force LA to make biking and buses viable. How is this complicated for you?
@@Droogswhen the close streets for biking people ride a ton. no one rides because it's not safe. they ride bikes more in seattle which has more hills and colder weather
San Francisco's Firefighters did the same thing. lol So Sad.
Easiest solution for Emergency staff is to create double track Protected bike lane to let emergency staff through. Like, even without bike lanes there's still a ton of traffic. @_@
I feel like they get paid for no compassion doing absolutely nothing for the public community even though they claim to do I never seen them do much ever nothing
How about no bike lanes and no congestion creation
@@MikeGoesBadaBoom so all of those people they showed riding on bikes, it would be better if each of them had to drive a car? Sounds like more traffic, not less...
Vote yes on HLA to reduce traffic deaths and injuries.
Vote no to more traffic and useless bike lanes.
@@MikeGoesBadaBoomyou're ironically just voting for more traffic lol
LA don't care. Just look at the encampments that block sidewalks and ADA access.
Just look at the cars parked on the streets of neighborhoods at night. That's classy! $10mm dollar home with cars parked on the streets.
Yes on HLA!
Vote no. Voting yes is voting for more traffic and idiocy. Let me guess you’re going to vote for that failure Gascon too.
@@MikeGoesBadaBoom To late now
Vote against it they’re already taken away so many car lanes and parking for 1 stupid bike lane
That seems to be the plan to eventually get rid of cars.
Exactly!
We definitely need to get rid of as much street parking as possible. It is the worst use of public space. Getting rid of it is the best way to reduce traffic.
People are so brainwashed they actually believe this will speed up traffic we already HAVE IT so bad in traffic taking one car lane off for some schmucks who like to drive there bikes on Sundays is MAJOR NO TO ME
As a cyclist i wouldn't use them, i rather ride alleys and backstreets much safer away from traffic
I agreed! Just want to add the river trails!
I used to live in Germany. Bike lanes over there are ELEVATED, so beyond the curb and level with the pedestrian walk; in many cases pedestrian walk is elevated an inch from the bike lane as well. I believe that is much safer than bike lanes on the same level with vehicular traffic. Of course the German model is much more expensive. The City of LA seems to have a good budget. So it is only a matter of choosing priorities.
Bike lanes need to be eliminated completely and make them into lanes for cars
why? u feel safe in your stupid little cave of a car?
@@mrpogi23Do you feel safer on a gay little bike than in a car?
@@Narcissistic_opinionation "gay little bike"
1st. homphobia.
2nd. They're literaly doing more exercise than you. Stop being lazy then?
@handsfortoothpicks wow you're a little crybaby 😂😂😂
@@handsfortoothpicks shed some more tears for me
Rambling nonsense, The opposite of what he has said are the results of these type of changes.
Good lord. Does this guy know that fire trucks can drive in the bus lane? That’s how it works in Boston.
Boston has yet to burn down or suffer economic collapse last time I checked.
Is that ones who live in LA county or In Boise Idaho?
Boise probadly would also say no. Bill
@@janetlewis7145fire fighters who have strong opinions about the city they serve should live in the city they serve.
They better do like the rest of us and LEAVE EARLY 😂😂
HOW?
one group of local firefighters sucks, that's what this is. emergency vehicles can use bus lanes, so HLA will actually make us safer
I stand with the fire fighters , we don't need more bike and bus lanes, safety first.
It’s true 7th street is a nightmare. I seen how fire trucks struggle to get were they going. Also we need a better lighting on the streets. Half of the city is pitch black. Westmoreland ave. Vehicles have to wait for someone to make a left or right turn until pedestrians pass. It holds the traffic. I already vote no NLA.
Great idea “ let’s make traffic worse by taking away lanes”
You clearly haven't thought about it for any amount of time
@@handsfortoothpicksyou clearly haven’t. Road diets when there’s no viable alternatives is a stupid concept. We don’t have enough public transit to replace car use. Our public transit is filled with homeless scum.
@@handsfortoothpicksindeed, the facts don't support their conclusion. they're scientifically proven wrong
Search up “induced demand”
Then come back when you have been educated
Only if LA had the Dutch infrastructur.
The executives at KTLA must be sad to see HLA pass with about 2/3 of the electorate voting YES!
Totally agrees with LAFD
This will help reduce car pollution and get people out of their cars 😂
Did he just threaten it will take longer to get to bike related incidents at the end there?
He sure did.
They put these bike lanes this on Reseda Blvd.
It’s been really bad on traffic - nearly doubling our time to go down a 2 mile stretch.
Reseda Blvd is so jammed up now that we end up taking Wilbur which doesn’t have bike lanes.
While the bike lanes have good intentions, it’s still too dangerous to ride bikes, and we avoid the bus because of crime, slow schedules, and overcrowding.
@@JaredBowls Why? It is an awesome shortcut.
ride a bike.
@@wesleyp3024they can't, toooooo dangerous.
Vote Yes on HLA!
No on HLA!
"We also spoke to the pro-HLA people."
*doesn't upload that video*
I feel like I'm watching Fox News, this is so unabashedly biased.
I wonder if sinclair owns them
Thxs Alfred E.
Vote Yes on HLA
I love propaganda.
A bike lane is an emergency vehicle lane that bikes are allowed on during its off time.
Half of the Comment Section acting like it’s the End of the world. Saying “Traffic will get worse if a lane is removed” but then forget about induced Demand Or “We Aren’t the Netherlands” But then forget that the Fact that the Netherlands that the Same infrastructure that LA had decades ago.
Agree with the firefighters ❤
why? the firefighters need to do a test run with sirens and see the bikes move and the cars refuse to move.
@raffyzoo2130 lol not these bike riders.
This is pure insanity WTH🥴
Major car brain
Bike lanes killed down town San Francisco i vote No like LA fire department .
The city is rethinking about those bike lanes in the middle of Valencia street. Businesses along that street are suffering
Vote “NO” everyone
We have similar issues in NYC even though the bike lanes are designed to be used by emergency vehicles. Turns out most of the cops and firefighters live in the suburbs and are more worried about traffic, which they cause by driving into the most transit-rich city in the US.
Getting rid of cars are you now.
The biggest fraction of responses for firefighters is dangerous car crashes. These types of road upgrades reduce deadly crashes. That's good for fire fighters.
Kids need a safe place to bike. He's right there is data. The other bit of data is that the impacts on business is neutral to better, not worse.
Finally, the size of fire trucks. They keep getting bigger and bigger. In every other developed country, the trucks are just as efficient, and not as oversized as the US.
Roads designed for these huge trucks are what make roads dangerous
Bike lanes have dividers on it , so fire trucks and ambulance are too big to go through it !!
OBVIOUSLY their paying the fire fighters to say NO, for whtvr reason.under the table . Cuz it dont even make no sense. I say YES on HLA🎉🎉🎉
Listen to the fireman.
Expert on putting out fires, not so much on urban planning and infrastructure.
Dumb politicians. 🤦🏽
Picture a hook & ladder truck turning on to one these narrowed streets and cars not able to move over. Bad, bad idea. Bill
cars move over & bikes get out of the way. try it & find out.
@@raffyzoo2130 Not on a very narrow street. Where are they going to move over when there is only one lane of traffic each direction and no parking side available. Where are they going to move, on to the sidewalk ? And put pedestrians at risk. Thats not a plan at all! Would you like to be the front or rear driver on a hook and ladder truck and try that maneuver yourself?
This aint small town USA, you cant just put streets on diets
Less lanes for cars= more traffic. Simple as that.
Completely forgetting that people will use bikes and busses
@@handsfortoothpicks Im forgetting?
We don't need bike lanes. You are supposed to ride on the sidewalk. . Cars are more important than bicycles.
then why do people complain when people ride bikes on the sidewalk?
Disable, Pedestrians come have priority.
I don’t know why anybody would even come up with this lame idea again it makes traffic 10 times worse than it already is can’t move an inch around the corner anywhere in the freaking valley
"I'm not entirely certain about the solution, but the typical width of a bicycle ranges from 1 foot 5 inches to 2 feet 5 inches, varying based on the type of bicycle. If you consider a sidewalk that is five feet wide, you could divide it into two sections: one for pedestrian traffic and the other for one-directional bicycle traffic."
Bicyclist are skinny as well, no double sitting.
Yes On HLA
This is why voters should always read the pros and cons of ballot measures.
And Those ballots are very tricky when you vote no it really means yes 🤦♀️
@@New-bw4kz Like when that firefighter said building more bicycle infrastructure would make it more dangerous for bicyclists. What these "No" people are failing to mention is that Measure HLA doesn't add any new lanes of any kind. All it does is require the city to follow the laws on the books, which they have failed to do.
The cons of HLA? None.
@@handsfortoothpicks No room for cars to pull over for emergency vehicles is not a "con" to you?
@@Jeanne90275 compared to all of the room we currently have with traffic everywhere?
Totally misguided and unhelpful. Just saying no doesn’t solve the issue that they’re trying to solve. Offer an alternative solution!
They do. They did on LaBrea and it’s a constant mess
No one on our new bike, bus, train items.
Remove these bike lanes no one uses them, bikers cyclists still go in-between cars 😂
Exactly. get rid of the bike lanes. Some streets they make sense. Some they don’t at all. Legalize riding on the sidewalk
@@MikeGoesBadaBoom It makes no sense to force them on the sidewalks, people are pulling out of alleys/driveways and don't even look both directions, or stop before entering the sidewalk to make sure it's clear.
YES ON HLA🎉
here after the not just bikes video
my local road way i use to travel on was 4 lanes with parking in both sides, and they managed to reduce it to a dual lane parking lot during rush hour.
bike people ride on the sidewalk where it is safe
Ban bikes.
I wish they would all step down. Their ideas make no sense. In the course of a week I see 5 bikers and 1,000,000 autos . do the math!
Then add a train and bike lanes. People would use those to avoid traffic
Maybe that what the city want. HLA
Fix the roads first before focusing on other items
Nothing is going to help LA
LA is trying to mirror Europe in this regard. HOWEVER, according to my understanding, in Europe emergency service protocols are different, in that emergency vehicles are equipped to provide emergency services on location, vs. the US protocol is that emergency vehicles are getting the injured to the hospital ASAP.
This is truly what we need a major change in Emergency services and community cities In The Almighty name of Jesus Amen🙏💪❤
what a clown
Yeah, that’s a problem on Sepulveda Boulevard one of mini Boulevard now I have to worry about or we have to worry about people using that lane as a regular lane to speed down the street to pass everyone and before I make an entrance into any business on the right of me, I’d rather look for a bus bicycle or some idiot speeding down that lane so no it doesn’t work and it causes unnecessary traffic There’s always talk about alleviating traffic and this just makes it worse. Horrible
Is a totally time , money and space wasted
Not really. Having a double tracked protected bike lane w/emergency crews coming through is the best solution
Those bike paths are barely used… is just another way to launder money
The point is getting to a critical mass of safe and efficient bike and pedestrian infrastructure, nobody is going to bike if there's only a protected lane on one street during their trip/commute. Once the network is more robust it'll be a viable option for many people.
Adding. These Bike lanes on already densely populated and heavily trafficked streets and roads makes little sense forcing more cars on to fewer lanes not to mention making the parking problem even worse. Another example of public officials having to much tax payer time on their hands.
instead of thousands of bikes in bike lanes imagine thousands more autos on the same road added to the huge number of autos already there.
You don't seem to know how induced demand works. If you don't support cyclists, that is stupid, car-centric, and a tyranny of the majority.
So off on the facts that it smells fishy. Those scooters would go in the bike lanes too.
Finally someone speaking facts.
Poor idiots lost their minds from the loud sirens
I'm SICK of the bike lanes. This isn't a flat tiny piece of crap European city. It's LA and the city is full of hills and the connections are awful for any trip longer than 5 miles. Secondly, if the city can't maintain the roads for the cars that produce so much more tax revenue do you really think they'll maintain them any better for your stupid bikes that aren't being taxed like cars?
Yet Switzerland & Austria are Almost Covered by mountains yet they have better infrastructure than anywhere in California tho
"This isn't a flat tiny piece of crap European city. It's LA"
lmfao
The Netherlands has Bike lane all over the County & Ifs bigger & Less dense than LA County
Saboteur Policy makers.
Will if the Firefighters where smart they'll be a lane open for them switch is the bus lane an have tha lane be for buses and law enforcement they will never be stuck in traffic the goal is to have less cars on the streets not more 💯🤷♂️🤔
#VOTEYESONHLA
I bet most of them are smarter than you, vote no, safety first.
Bike lanes are stupid and waste of Tax payer money. To make Bike lanes they going to have to change roads and Side walks to add them and even in some cases lose the side walk in some areas. Since those areas are maxed out as it is. Louisville did the same thing and their Mayor got named Bike Mayor. Esp since in winter time and most of the time. Those Bike lanes are not used at all. No one bikes to work in the winter not when there is ice all over the roads. Also is the city going to use that money to fix the roads. People saying roads have pot holes bigger then a small car in some places. But hey lets build bike lanes and leave the roads a mess.
& Make it safer for pedestrians
@@JermaniBurroughs Pedestrians are already safe with Side walks, Bikes were also safe as long as they followed the rules of the road. Keep right except when you trying to make a left turn. It called share the road. But some Bike people get right in the middle of the lane and will have 20 cars that can't go around them. Think to drive a bike on the road, you should be required a License for a bike, saying you know the rules of the road for a bike. Some Pedestrians are worse then bikers. They wear all black at night and expect drivers see them walking in the middle of the road. They usually do as they hit them and say, Where was they at?
@@fnusecurity5112 That’s why cars have lights & There building Protected bike lanes so bikes can be safe & The reason why that Bike might get into a car lane is because a bike lane would end & there’s possibly no sidewalks
Are they thinking LA is the same as Holland or Norway? the Firefighters are right
Meanwhile The Netherlands & Norway had the Same Infrastructure that LA had Decades ago
@@JermaniBurroughs Wrong, there is no City in Norway or the Netherlands that is the same size as LA, and in both Norway and the Netherlands there are not the same number of cars that circulate through the city every day
like it is in LA
@@juniorpaulo3494 The Netherlands is the same size of La County & The Netherlands has Bike Lanes all over the Country Add that with a robust Rail System That Circulates the Country & 50 years ago The Netherlands was just as Car-Minded like LA but They Improve We didn’t (for now)& let’s also not forget that the fact the Netherlands is Less Denser than LA & The Netherlands is almost twice the Population as LA.
LA has tried to do this before, only to remove those bike lanes not long after. It was very costly. Until more people actually ride their bike and take the bus, this isn't really worth it.
Most people will only ride in the bike lanes if they are reasonably safe, which the current minimal ones aren't, as they often put people in the door zone of parked cars and with fast moving traffic directly beside them. there needs to be true protection, but that takes more space. And the bus will only broadly be an attractive option if it's not stuck in traffic, hence the need for bus lanes. Transit needs to be efficient for it to be a viable option for people. Sooner or later LA is going to need to make these changes anyway if there is to be any hope of safer streets and better mobility options. The status quo is not acceptable. Oh and also there is this climate crisis thing.
Like what you see in Santa Monica
Vote no on HLA to prevent more road diets on LA streets.
The super liberals want to have everyone bike or ride the bus because they hate cars it's that simple. Voters: do you bike or ride the bus to work?
It's not very fiscally responsible to keep spending money on expensive roads when there are other cheaper, more efficient methods of transit available, rather than everyone needing a car to do anything in the city.
Doesn't anyone look past their nose in California?
Why do you think state government pushed for 'light rail' commuter trains, a high-speed 'bullet train' connecting Los Angeles and San Francisco (with other destinations planned), the highest (at pump) price for gasoline in the Nation, the most strictly enforced vehicle laws, the wide-spread availability of public use scooters & bikes, implementation of ever more pedestrian only streets and shopping areas, and now for additional protected bike lane installation?
The plan is for the eventual elimination of ALL privately owned vehicle use on public roads within the State of California which would eliminate things like 'high-speed' car chases, hit 'n run drivers, vehicle accidents, drive-by shootings, illegal 'side-show' displays, car-jackings, chop-shops, [future] driver-less cars, and several other non-desirable things that your state government would like to see eliminated.
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This stuttering inarticulate fear monger convinced me to vote yes. 👍
We will move to LOS ANGELES in the future We vote yes to HLA sorry to burst the bubble .
Metro buses never use the designated bus lanes, especially downtown. Whats the point ?
Everyone vote yes to HLA .
Vote no. If you vote yes you want more traffic and admit to having a cognitive impairment.